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That First Kinder®

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Buying a Good Kinder® Goat

There is more to buying a good Kinder goat than just looking at good conformation, good udders, good milk production and a good meat carcass.

You want to look at the health of the animal too. You don’t want a Kinder that needs all kinds of medications to keep it well. You don’t want an animal that does not deliver kids easily. You do want a Kinder that is an easy keeper that does not take lots of extra feed to produce a good supply of milk and provide a good meat carcass. You want an animal that has some resistance to internal parasites so you are not giving it chemical wormers on a regular basis. All these things are just as, are possibly more, important than the outward appearance of the animal.

If it takes all kinds of medications to keep the animal healthy then I would not want to drink the milk nor eat the meat of a Kinder that has been loaded with all these chemicals. If you are buying your first Kinder goat then the questions ask should include the ones regarding the health of the animal and what medications has the seller be using.

When buying that Kinder goat just remember to look and ask about CAE, CL and about all the medications that this animal has been given. Always ask about the ease of kidding in older does and in the dam of younger doelings.

Buy the best animal possible and ask questions. Look at the animal’s dam and sire if possible. Make sure this is truly a dual purpose animal and not just a shorter version of a dairy goat. A true Kinder produces milk and meat. Rub your hands over the animal to make sure there are no lumps that might be a sign of CL. Ask for CAE testing results.

You want a Kinder that has good conformation, good udder, good meat carcass and one that is healthy and has not been filled with all kinds of medications. You want an animal that is CL and CAE free. Do your homework and ask questions. You and your goats will be happier if you do.

Kinder Goats

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A Kinder Goat is one that is bred according to the Kinder Score Card and the Kinder Breed Standard. As Kinder breeders we are breeding one type of goat and that is according to our standards. We do not have two or more types of goats but only one. The Kinder is a dual purpose animal that will milk and also provide a good meat carcass. The ideal Kinder doe is to be 26 inches at the withers and the bucks 28 inches. Those animals with longer more dairy type bodies and legs are not truly Kinder goats. There are many dairy animals for people to choose from, we do not need to try to make our Kinder one of those. If we are to continue to breed a dual purpose animal then we must breed according to our standards.

Sue Beck's buckThis is a good example of a Kinder buck.

My Story About CAE

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Lets talk about CAE.

At the very beginning of my Kinder breeding program I was just like lots of others, looking for more genetics for my Kinder herd without using caution when buying new stock for that program.

Sure I had read all the warnings of bringing in new stock without asking about CAE, CL and etc. but just as I have already stated, I threw all caution to the wind. All I could think about was wanting new bloodlines to increase my gene pool.

Well in 1994 the chickens came home to roost, so to speak. After coming back from the Missouri State Fair, with a blue ribbon for the Kinder doe that milked the most in the milking competition, it was time for CAE testing. This was the first time for my testing the doe that had won the milking competition. It was then that my night mare started.

I had the vet to come and draw blood for CAE.The vet called when he received the test results. All negative except for one doe. This was the doe that had won the milking competition. This was the one that tested positive for CAE. I will always remember how sick I felt. I could not believe this, she didn’t have enlarged knee joints, she was in great condition and her coat shown like a bright new copper penny. There had to be some mistake, the test had to be wrong. So I ask the vet to draw more blood and send it to another lab.

I held my breath waiting for those results but no amount of wishing was going to change the results of the first testing. The doe once again tested positive. Just hoping against all hope I ask to have more blood drawn and sent to a third lab. The results were the same, positive for CAE.

What was I going to do? Not only did I have a CAE doe in my herd but I had put all the rest of the herd at risk. I would not be able to sell Kinder; my reputation was ruined. No one would ever want to buy a Kinder goat from me. My time for breeding Kinder seemed to be at an end. I was sick and sick at heart.

I called a friend in the Kinder Association and confided in her. She convinced me to do what every lab had suggested. Put down the doe with CAE then use CAE prevention with all the other Kinder in my herd. This would mean that I must be there at every birth and never allow a doe to touch any of her kids. I would need to heat treat the colostrum and pasteurize all the milk then bottle all the kids. The labs had told me that I would need to do this for some years because, even if no other Kinder had tested positive for CAE, it could at any time raise it ugly head again. The one doe had CAE and I had exposed all the others to this monster.

We put the doe down that had CAE, then my work began to try to stop CAE from infecting my other animals. It was lots of work and heart breaking to never let a doe see her babies. When Harvey would come to evaluate and even mention that a knee joint might be a little enlarged I would immediately send that animal for meat. We tested every year for CAE.

Years passed and never another animal positive for CAE. My life breeding Kinder did continue. My reputation had not been destroyed and I watched with such pride with many does being first in their class, winning championships and winning stars in one-day testing.

What is my point for writing about all this? I want to tell others how important it is to ask questions when buying animals. I want to impress on everyone that you cannot be too careful. It is important to have a gene pool but not at the expense of all your herd. It would have been so much better to have had fewer genetics than to expose all my goats to CAE. It didn’t wipe out all my Kinder but it surely could have. God was good! It was only by the grace of God that I was able to continue my Kinder breeding. Breeding Kinder goats is something that I have just loved since the very first day and I am so thankful for the experience to have done that. I always keep in mind that it was almost cut short by my wanting more and better genetics. Be very careful!

Breeding Kinder Goats

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Breeding Kinder Goats

Breeding goes hand in hand with evaluating your herd. I think there is too much voodoo written about line breeding and inbreeding. Stop thinking of breeding in human terms! Line breeding and inbreeding is very important and is done in most herds that are successfully shown, those with excellent udders, very good milk production and just general good conformation.

True that this magnifies both the bad and the good in your herd but if you have a good foundation then it is my opinion that line breeding is the only way you will continue to produce those fine animals. This is done by many breeders of all other breeds. Since the Kinder is specifically from two major breeds it is of the up most importance to do everything possible to pass these good genes on down the generation lines of the Kinder goat.

I almost shudder any more when I hear a Kinder breeder say, “Oh, I have just got to get new blood in my herd, I need something entirely unrelated to my other goats”. I have seen Kinder herds go from a top notch herd, to much lesser than in a hurry, when just adding one new herd sire.

If you have a herd that has general good conformation, that are milking well anything from 4 pounds up per day and if those animals are truly dual purpose showing a good meat carcass, then why do you want to change that? If you have sold animals to other breeders then go buy something from their lines that also has your lines in it. In this way you will be adding back some of your own genetics. If you completely cross out of your line it is hard telling what you might get. Genetics is a wild and wonderful world and we as Kinder breeders by breeding 50/50 are trying to fool mother nature into producing a goat that will continue to produces animals that conforms to our breed standards.

Look at the little doe below. Does she have a capacious udder? Some on our face book page think so. This little doe is a product of line breeding and she is lovely. God willing in a year or so I will tell you how she milks. She comes from generations of milking lines and Grand Champions.

Breeding Kinder goats is so exciting.

Zucchini Casserole

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1 1/2 lbs. zucchini
1 1/2 lbs. ground chevon
1 medium onion
1/2 lb. cheddar cheese, shredded
1 can cream of mushroom soup
1/2 cup goat milk
salt and pepper

Trim and slice zucchini (do not peel); cook in small amount of boiling water until just crispy tender; drain. Cook chevon in skillet until lightly brown, add chopped onion, cover, and cook over low heat until onion is barely tender. Season to taste.

In a lightly buttered two-quart casserole, arrange layers of zucchini, meat ,and cheese; repeat, ending with cheese. Combine mushroom soup and milk; pour over all. Sprinkle top with cheese. Bake in moderate oven (350 degrees) about 35 minutes, or until bubbly.

Nice served with a side of slice tomatoes and crusty bread.

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Summer came to the Rogue Valley on June 21st. That was the first nice day that we have had all year. Last week we still had the risk of frost so my garden starts have been sitting in their pots waiting for the ground to dry up and warm up. I finally got them all in and hope they get to growing.
Our Kinder kids have really started growing too. The boys are all banded and I put two sets of twin bucklings into the weaning pen. Finally I get that great Kinder milk for myself. I have two large freezers that I put the one quart plastic bags of milk in for my soapmakaing. The rest is for cheese.
I love to make a soft spreadable cheese for toast. Heat one gallon of milk to 170 degrees and add 3/4 cup of lemon juice let sit for a few minutes until a fine curd forms. Pour the curds into a cheesecloth lined colander to drain. Tie the four corners of the cheesecloth into a knot and hang the bag to drain for a couple of hours. The cheese can then be salted a little or have herbs added. My favorite is to leave the salt out and use one of the Ms. Dash seasonings like the chipotle, herb and garlic, or spicy hot.
As you increase the temperature up from 170 toward 180 the curd will become a bit tougher and larger and you can actually press it into a log shape and slice it. If you heat it to 180 and use 1/4 cup of vinegar in place of the lemon juice you will get queso blanco . This cheese can be cut and used in salads, soups and stir-fries.
There are a lot of great cheese and meat recipes in the book “Goats Produce too! The Udder Real Thing Volume 2 by Mary Jane Toth. It is well worth the $13 price tag.
One of my favorite recipes is for Cajeta which is Mexican caramel candy.
3 qts goat milk
3 C sugar
2 tbsp cornstarch
1/4 tsp baking soda.
dissolve the corn starch and baking soda in 1 cup of the milk to get out all the lumps then add it to the milk and sugar in the pot. I use a very heavy large pot for this as it will foam up and boil over in a small pot. Cook the mixture until it is thick and creamy like caramel sauce. It can be poured into jars and refrigerated. It is great on ice cream. If cooked to a soft caramel stage it is delicious on graham crackers.
Jean Jajan
Gray J Ranch

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